HP Proprint & CS3 Beta

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HP Proprint & CS3 Beta

Postby 168 on Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:56 pm

Just in case anyone is interested, I found out how to get the Proprint plugin working with CS3 Beta under Windows.

The files you need come packaged in an msi installer located on the HP B9100 series CD supplied with the printer: \setup\hpproprint\hpproprint.msi

Unfortunately this will only autoinstall under photoshop 7.0, CS and CS2. The good news though is that you can manually extract the necessary files, putting them into the correct folders in CS3 and they work (for me at least).
I found a useful extraction tool here:
http://www.legroom.net/software/uniextract

The files are called HPHiddenExport.8be which needs to be placed in the "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS3\Plug-ins\Import-Export\" folder
and "HP Photosmart Pro print plug-in for Adobe Photoshop.8li" Which should be placed in the "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS3\Plug-ins\Automate\" folder. (assuming CS3 is installed in the default location)

There are help files as well but I didn't bother with those.

Once installed the plug in seems to work fine - well just as well as it does under CS2 :o
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Postby Costas L on Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:38 pm

Looks like a handy little program, just downloaded it and gave it a quick try. Not sure what I am going to use it on, but it does do RAR files which is handy.

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Postby Advocate on Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:53 pm

I can confirm that unfortunately the plugins don't work on a Mac with CS3 :(
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Postby Neil Snape on Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:33 am

Did you move the Hidden plug in from CS2 to the import export plug ins in PS3?
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Postby Ken Sky on Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:59 pm

My understanding is ACR 3.7 is for CS 2 and ACR for CS 3 v.1.0. If you install the new version of ACR into the beta won't the printing function be disabled? I thought CS 3 beta didn't support the HP B9180 but the shipping version(s) will. So many announcements that I can't keep them all straight in my mind. :oops: I guess that's why this forum exists.
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Postby Neil Snape on Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:02 pm

ACR is V4 in CS3.
The plug in from Adobe/HP for printing still works, it's only the installer doesn't have the version checks in place. If you transfer the plugins into their correct locations they will work. I am not an expert on the registry though if certain keys will require installation into the HS reg.
On Mac it's pretty straight forward.
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Postby Ken Sky on Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:33 pm

Presently I have CS 2 with the HP plug-in and the beta of CS 3. What is the sequence for installing CS 3 v.1.0? Do I remove the HP plug-in and keep it aside prior to uninstalling both earlier versions? I have an iMac G5 (PPC)
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Postby Neil Snape on Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:04 pm

You can and probably should leave the CS2 set up idem. Copy the plug ins over into their respective folders in CS 3 on Mac. I can't say for sure if all the functionality of CS2 with the HP plug in will still work in CS3.
I did try CS3 , but unistalled it as I saw no benefit for my older G4's. When I get an Intel , then I will of course update to CS3.
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Postby Ken Sky on Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:32 pm

For the time being, I think I will continue my workflow as is, namely develop in LightRoom, edit in CS 2 or 3 and round trip it back to LightRoom for printing. That way I won't get into any conflicts until CS 3 gets sorted out.
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Postby DavidW on Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:35 am

I've installed Creative Suite 3 Design Premium on my Windows based workstation today (cheapest UK upgrade price found was Misco for £635 - interestingly the upgrade pack I received is marked as "not for sale in North America" amongst other things).


I chose to deactivate and uninstall Creative Suite 2 Premium before installing Creative Suite 3. (I never had the Photoshop CS3 beta on this machine). This was a somewhat risky strategy, but it leaves a cleaner Windows installation, and I can always reinstall CS2 if necessary.

Following the uninstall and reboot, I needed a clear up of the rubble left behind. Half of Adobe Stock Photos and half of ExtendScript was left behind - a quick delve into the registry to find the appropriate MsiExec runes to uninstall Adobe Stock Photos plus reference to the Adobe support site to ensure I got all the registry and file junk from both items cleared that up.


The HP plug-in was one of the items left behind in the almost empty Adobe Photoshop CS2 folder following the CS2 uninstall and subsequent reboot. After installing CS3, I simply moved the HP plug-in (and a few other bits and pieces - scripts such as Mike's Framer) into the appropriate place in the Photoshop CS3 Extended folder when I'd installed CS3.

One thing that saves me a lot of time is installing Photoshop plug-ins, such as Noise Ninja, in a separate folder outside the Adobe folders. That way, I just point any software that can use Photoshop plug-ins to that folder.


However, though the HP plug-in is present in CS3, I can't enter a value in some of the fields. I don't know if it worked in CS2, as I never actually used it. However, I'll try to remember to check on my laptop before uninstalling CS2 from there.

Meanwhile, there's no need to round trip back to Lightroom - you can print "conventionally" from Photoshop CS3 rather than using the plug-in. CS3's print dialog is a worthwhile improvement over CS2's Print with Preview in my opinion. Indeed, Creative Suite 3 overall seems to have many worthwhile improvements - much as I'm only in my first couple of hours of exploring.


What would really help is if my B9180 would decide to work - I tried to make some prints when I started to write this reply, and I keep getting PAPER JAM, REMOVE REAR DOOR TO CLEAR PAPER. PRESS OK TO CONTINUE even though there's no jam. HP's support site talks about cleaning the rollers - I'll try that tomorrow, then it will be a case of calling HP support. Meanwhile, I've turned the printer off overnight - that may just do the job.


Once I've had a day or two working with Creative Suite 3, I'm intending to install a Lightroom trial to see if it will offer me anything. The price will go up from the current ~£130 at the end of the month, so it's do or die time. The lack of plug-in support in Lightroom has me thinking that there's no point in Lightroom for me (especially as CS3 has Camera Raw 4, and Bridge CS3 has stacks, multiple previews and the loupe), but it feels like a mistake not to try Lightroom.



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Postby Eduardo on Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:54 am

Hi,

there will be no PrintPlugin for CS3 but there is already a kind of plugin installed within CS3.

See

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop ... atibility/

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Postby Neil Snape on Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:23 am

Yes what is stated is what was foreseen in the CS3 concept.
Exactly why I said you will not necessarily have all options in CS3 and the old plug in. Even though it is not officially stated , you can expect a release for CS3.
Also as you can clearly see, it is Adobe and the other partners that co dev the new printer plug ins, so a reasonable delay from Adobe should be granted. The release of CS3 suite is a huge undertaking, thus priorities have to be taken in development.
As long as most of the functions work, living with those will do for now.
I would rather see Adobe make some bug fixes for Lightroom first, as printing from Photoshop still works perfectly with HP printers.
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Postby DavidW on Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:24 pm

DavidW wrote:What would really help is if my B9180 would decide to work - I tried to make some prints when I started to write this reply, and I keep getting PAPER JAM, REMOVE REAR DOOR TO CLEAR PAPER. PRESS OK TO CONTINUE even though there's no jam. HP's support site talks about cleaning the rollers - I'll try that tomorrow, then it will be a case of calling HP support. Meanwhile, I've turned the printer off overnight - that may just do the job.

After 45 minutes on the phone to HP Support - who were very helpful, if a bit ponderous - I'm now awaiting a replacement printer by 1 May. I can only hope that it doesn't have any flaws - apart from this sudden feed failure, my B9180 was perfect.

What a pain on the ink loss from charging the lines in a replacement printer.



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Postby 168 on Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:39 pm

Having gone to the trouble of installing the plugin (windows) I've now given up using it because of a flaw (see http://www.photo-i.co.uk/BB/viewtopic.p ... e81ec3e79f )
Too much wasted paper & ink
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Postby DavidW on Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:11 pm

168 wrote:Having gone to the trouble of installing the plugin (windows) I've now given up using it because of a flaw (see http://www.photo-i.co.uk/BB/viewtopic.p ... e81ec3e79f )
Too much wasted paper & ink

That was why I never bothered with it in the first place. I find the improved print dialog in Photoshop CS3 very usable - all I want now is my replacement B9180!



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