Anyone compare output on a R1800 to a output on a R1400?

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Anyone compare output on a R1800 to a output on a R1400?

Postby gplracer » Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:43 am

I know one is pigment and one is dye. How does the photo output compare?
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Postby RBO » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:47 am

I’ve done the same color print on Matte Paper (Heavyweight for the 1400, Enhanced Matte for the 1800) and found very little difference. Overall, the 1800 print looked a little cooler to me. Some colors (reds) were slightly more saturated on the 1400 than on the 1800 and other colors (greens) were slightly more saturated on the 1800. I used Epson’s standard profiles for both and suspect that differences in the profiles accounted for the very small differences observed in the prints.

Comparing both prints side by side, my preference was for the one produced on the 1400, even though I felt the one produced on the 1800 was a more accurate reproduction of my memory of the original scene.

I know one print is a pretty limited sample, but I hope it helps you a little.
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Postby gplracer » Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:44 am

Thanks for your post. I appreciate you taking the time to post it. Sounds like the output is real close.
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Postby zor17 » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:40 pm

The 1400 is a little sharper and the colors are more saturated.

The 1800 colors are cooler, with strong cyans and blues. The problem of the 1800 is the deep of the yellow ink.

On glossy paper I prefer the 1400 prints.
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Postby gplracer » Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:15 am

If price is not considered would you rather have a 1400 or an 1800?
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Postby zor17 » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:51 pm

If you like prints on glossy paper, to store on photo albums, choose the 1400.

If you want durable prints on different papers, choose the 1800.
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Postby RBO » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:51 pm

To expand a little on zor17’s post, I too believe that paper handling capability is the biggest difference that separates the 1800 from the 1400. On Epson Matte Heavyweight (or whatever they are calling it today) or Ilford Classic series papers, my 1400 produces color prints that, I believe, are as good as it gets. And, if you stick to the papers I just mentioned, the permanence projections are quite good. The problem is that virtually every other paper available is “optimized” for pigment inks, which has a detrimental effect on dye inks. And, if you want to try thicker media like fine art paper or canvas, the 1400 won’t work at all.

Also think about icc profiles. Makers of fine art and canvas will almost always have a profile for an Epson 2400, less frequently for an 1800, and almost never for a 1400.

Finally, don’t let the purchase price of the printer unduly influence your decision. Even with a moderate amount of printing, consumables will easily exceed even the price of a 2400 before you know it.

If I had it to do over again, I would go with the 1800.
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Postby Big-H » Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:53 am

And, if you want to try thicker media like fine art paper or canvas

I've printed using a 100% cotton based paper (225) out of curiosity and had no problem.
Quality was not that bad either!

If cost is an issue why not use Fotospeed CIS system? I've got one on my 1400 and it works without a problem - no blocks, no troubles! And Fotospeed do both dye and pigment inks
Look at http://thedarkroom.co.ukhttp://www.thedarkroom.co.uk
Not only that but both this co.. and Fotospeed offer telephone support.
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Postby mybell » Fri May 09, 2008 4:07 pm

Big-H wrote:
And, if you want to try thicker media like fine art paper or canvas

I've printed using a 100% cotton based paper (225) out of curiosity and had no problem.


Can you print on canvas with the 1400 ? If so are there any issues with doing so. Thanks
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Postby Big-H » Fri May 09, 2008 6:26 pm

Sorry - haven't tried canvas as I haven't got any!

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Re: Anyone compare output on a R1800 to a output on a R1400?

Postby fanastasoaie » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:30 am

I have printed on canvas (the former PremierArt Glossy one) with the 1400. See one of my earlier posts here.
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