Color Not Right in Windows 7 - R1800

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Color Not Right in Windows 7 - R1800

Postby jangell2 » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:14 pm

I just converted to Win7 in the past month and have just tried printing with my R1800. It was a digicam image manipulated in Photoshop CS3. I have not readjusted or calibrated my monitor since going to win7. The color management ICC profiles appear to be the same between Vista and win7.

Are there any known problems with Win7 and the R1800? I did go to the Epson site and download the latest drivers, which were indicated to be compatible with win7.
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Re: Color Not Right in Windows 7 - R1800

Postby Costas L » Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:13 am

What problem are you having, is it a cast that might be indicative of double profiling ?
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Re: Color Not Right in Windows 7 - R1800

Postby jangell2 » Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:50 am

Costas L wrote:What problem are you having, is it a cast that might be indicative of double profiling ?

The print is slightly darker, colors not as vibrant, and my first impression was that there was the slightest of greenish casts to the print.

The sun is going down here and I've just put the print up right next to the monitor with a halogen desk lamp (yeah, I know, probably adding color of its own) so I can see the print clearly. It looks good now, but maybe the light is "fixing" the problem.

I used Photoshop to produce the image and Qimage Pro to print it. I had Qimage use the printer driver. So if I understand it correctly, since I didn't print with PS, the profile was only applied once, correct?

I'm running a dual boot system of vista and win7 so I went back into vista and checked all the settings to be sure they were the same in win7 and they were.
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Re: Color Not Right in Windows 7 - R1800

Postby Costas L » Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:41 am

Double profiling would occur if the print driver and something else like PS or Qimage both applied the profile; usually shows itself as a magenta cast. Does not appear to be the case in this instance.

You need to compare print after its dried and screen using PS with view/proof setup and the profile used for printing.
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Re: Color Not Right in Windows 7 - R1800

Postby bez » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:38 am

Presumably you’re comparing an old and new print of the same image, and you've obviously checked all print settings are exactly the same - how about trying a print direct from CS3?
You’ll need to recalibrate your monitor as the old profile won’t be carried over, or will it, with dual boot? :roll:
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Re: Color Not Right in Windows 7 - R1800

Postby Costas L » Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:18 pm

bez wrote: .... You’ll need to recalibrate your monitor as the old profile won’t be carried over, or will it, with dual boot? :roll:


Good point; depending on the updated graphics card driver, the screen handling will be different anyway so well worth calibrating again.
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Re: Color Not Right in Windows 7 - R1800

Postby jangell2 » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:56 pm

Well, gosh, I've never really had a calibrated monitor, never made the investment in the software and device. I think what I did before, and got prints I was happy with, was to adjust the monitor to match a print. The thinking is make the monitor match what I got, and then adjust the picture in Photoshop to what I wanted. Since the monitor "matched" the printer, I did get better prints.

I had not done that in win7 but will experiment with that.

I would like to do a proper calibration. I've got a birthday coming up, maybe I can request a calibration system. Is there a reasonably priced (less than $300 usd, preferably less) system I could get? It would be even better if it did double duty as a home theater calibration system.
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Re: Color Not Right in Windows 7 - R1800

Postby Costas L » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:53 pm

Hello johnny
There are many screen calibration devices, one of the better low cost options is the Eye One Display. I know some people have managed to use it to calibrate TV's connected to the PC but never tried myself.

For the moment you might want to try a manual technique, use the screens at the link below for instructions
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
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